Curse

Dark_Seraph · May 23, 2006, 12:59 AM // 00:59

So many, where to start . . .

I don't visit the arenas much, but was recently in the Shiverpeak arena. Our group of 4 warriors was doing well, had a few consec wins, when one had to leave at the start of the match. Despite missing a player, we won that match as well. Next round we picked up a monk. One of the other warrs says "hi" and reassures the monk by saying, "don't worry, we've been doing pretty good". The monk returns with some comment about how good he is . . . The next battle was a toughie - two eles in particular beating the crap outta us, however we managed to work as a team and take them out. Afterwards, as the rest of us are offering "gg"s and "gj"s to all, the monk says in general chat "I wish the eles were on my team" and tells us how he saved our lives and then promptly drops. . . .was that really necessary? Grrr.

X God Of Fire X · May 23, 2006, 04:01 AM // 04:01

ok my jerk story;
i was tring to run elonas to get money to fund my warriors 15k (soon to be all black) dragons armor and then jerk came along...
me: RUNNING MISSION AND BONUS 1k pay at last crystal invite self.
so he invited himself so i accepted
jerk

mg...you cant run this....(leaves)
me

whisper) you think so?
jerk

whisper) i know so
me: ok then if you think your right then invite yourself back and ill prove to you that i can
jerk

k sure, but not only that il bet you not only the 1k for the run but 10k that you cant run it
me:are you serious??!!
jerk:im that confedent that you cant run it
me

k :i invite him back:
jerk:lets go
me:im getting more ppl for the run
jerk:fine.....just more humiliation for u
me:hehe..think what u want
so i wait about 3 min while posting my offer and it didnt take long for me to get a full group because i was having fairly good luck at the moment and there was no competition so we left once i confirmed that they all had money
jerk:this is gonna be dissapointing hes just gonna fail
some teammates laugh
i grabbed the first crystal and brought it back with little trouble and brought it back to the ghost
jerk:ill be he didnt even see the mesmer boss lol ill double our bet cuz ur not even gonna make it past the mesmer boss
me

k sure
at this point i was confedent in my running ability because i just finsihed about 5 or so sucsessful runs
so, sure enough there was the mesmer boss so i got burdened and i got past it and i finished the bonus and then i got back to the crystal stand and more temmates started laughing
jerk:lucky ur just lucky
me:hehe sure just pay up
so i got payment from all except mister jerk
me: hey(name) its time to pay last crystal
no responce
me:...
jerk: oh right
i was only expecting the 1k for the run but sure enough i got the extra 20k he had bet
me

h damn u actually paied up!
jerk:just finish the mission
me:sure
so i finished and he left so did the others after thanking me for the job well done
well this may not be a jerk story but ppl who dont belive in me when i KNOW i can do something just kinda pisses me off but i do commend him for his hoesty
i got 26k from 1 run that day hehe i love bets lol

SAQ · May 23, 2006, 04:42 AM // 04:42

Biggest jerks I've encountered are people who come on the GW forums JUST to whine, all they ever do is whine whine whine.. Please, give light to some CONSTRUCTIVE critisms...

CorstedPirate · May 23, 2006, 06:00 AM // 06:00

I was in a group trying to finish the Vizunah Square mission, I wanted to get my third sword. We only needed one more person, so the leader accepted a level 19 necro. The level wasn't a big deal really, but while we were discussing strategy and requirements for 3 swords, the necro started spamming. "lets just go" over and over. So i say in team chat that the necro looks like they will be more trouble than they are worth. They kept spamming the "lets just go" crap for a minute, then noticed that I had said something about them. The person then said "shut up n00b b****" so I promtly left the group. We were still in town and I will not put up with that crap. The leader kicked the person and reinvited me. A few minutes later he started PMing people to find out if it was because of his level.

People just don't seem to realise, impatience will make them lose out on many things.

Is it just me, or is there a new trend where the group leader doesn't ask if people are ready before starting?

Silent Kitty · May 23, 2006, 07:35 AM // 07:35

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Originally Posted by CorstedPirate

Is it just me, or is there a new trend where the group leader doesn't ask if people are ready before starting?

It makes no difference anymore. Ask the monk if s/he's a healer, and s/he will say "Yes". When the mission is started, all the monk does is spamming breeze and carries no rez.
Wait an other five minutes, and suddenly people start leaving. Just Gogogogogo!!!! It makes no difference in pugs.

TheMadKingGeorge · May 23, 2006, 08:30 AM // 08:30

WTS Chkkrs Pincers Green Assassin Weapon +15%^50 +30 Health +Vamp Max Mod

thats what i was selling

some guy pms me wanting to buy them
he looks ta them i give him price he goes check something

he comes back and calls me a noob saying thats not modded i say yes it is

hes says there all like that

duh its a green why did you have to go check if it was modded unless you dont know greens can be modded
this point he puts me on ignore calling me the noob lol

saying you dont say mod ...

what a moron he had to go check to see if my GReeN daggers had a mod on when you cand mod green daggers whos the god dam noob

CorstedPirate · May 23, 2006, 12:05 PM // 12:05

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Originally Posted by Silent Kitty

It makes no difference anymore. Ask the monk if s/he's a healer, and s/he will say "Yes". When the mission is started, all the monk does is spamming breeze and carries no rez.
Wait an other five minutes, and suddenly people start leaving. Just Gogogogogo!!!! It makes no difference in pugs.

Hahaha!!! I am normally the monk. I have stopped even switching my skills anymore. I refuse since they will leave when I am in the middle and can't see the stupid timer is up because my skills and attributes windows are open. It has happened so many times in Factions that it is just ridiculous. So when I say I am a boon protection monk, if anyone has a problem with it or wants me to switch I just leave. Better than starting the mission in the middle of a change.

Guildmaster Cain · May 23, 2006, 01:11 PM // 13:11

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Originally Posted by CorstedPirate

I was in a group trying to finish the Vizunah Square mission, I wanted to get my third sword. We only needed one more person, so the leader accepted a level 19 necro. The level wasn't a big deal really, but while we were discussing strategy and requirements for 3 swords, the necro started spamming. "lets just go" over and over. So i say in team chat that the necro looks like they will be more trouble than they are worth. They kept spamming the "lets just go" crap for a minute, then noticed that I had said something about them. The person then said "shut up n00b b****" so I promtly left the group. We were still in town and I will not put up with that crap. The leader kicked the person and reinvited me. A few minutes later he started PMing people to find out if it was because of his level.

People just don't seem to realise, impatience will make them lose out on many things.

Is it just me, or is there a new trend where the group leader doesn't ask if people are ready before starting?

Maybe it means that I'm a jerk, but usually I am partyleader and when people start spamming 'gogogo' I kick them without questioning. Same as people that dont reply after they are asked questions on their build/skills.

But for some reason my % of missions and quest finished on first try is extremely high...

Phantoma · May 23, 2006, 01:11 PM // 13:11

the biggest jerk in gw for me was a guy on a guild that we had merged with.(no longer merged mostly due to his behaviour and a couple others) But this guy was horrible. He would insult anyone that wasn't in the guild, even went so far as to insult a friend I had brought into our group(didnt know she was a buddy), he stands back and watches what the non guildie throws out at monsters, then constantly berates them till they end up leaving. He thinks he is the best at what he does, he insults ppl in ventrilo, if he dies and you are the monk....well, you think he would just get up and continue, no...he will go so far as to accuse the monk of letting him die and berate them, even if they are a guildie. He made joining that guild hell, and I am glad we are gone. He thinks he is the best player out there, and OMG what a loser!! He is a fine player when he isnt being an jerk, but he is almost always a jerk. He also thinks he has done nothing wrong when confronted with the problems. A "real" winner. He and another buddy will leave you dead on the floor and go collect the reward for a quest and not bother to res you, sure made me feel like a member of the guild. I would love to post who this is and what guild, but I think that is best left unsaid. He knows who he is. Royal jerk and a megga jack@$$

GranDeWun · May 23, 2006, 01:15 PM // 13:15

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Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain

Maybe it means that I'm a jerk, but usually I am partyleader and when people start spamming 'gogogo' I kick them without questioning. Same as people that dont reply after they are asked questions on their build/skills.

But for some reason my % of missions and quest finished on first try is extremely high...

Yes, you qualify as a jerk.

Guildmaster Cain · May 23, 2006, 01:31 PM // 13:31

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Originally Posted by GranDeWun

Yes, you qualify as a jerk.

Well, at least that makes me and my partymembers not worry about the other jerks out there:

-'Gogogo': Typical 6-year old rusher
-Not talking: High chance of leecher
-Not telling skills: Usually an 'I-drop-and-leave-u-to-die-after-my-cap'-person

Demesis · May 23, 2006, 02:23 PM // 14:23

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Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain

Well, at least that makes me and my partymembers not worry about the other jerks out there:

-'Gogogo': Typical 6-year old rusher
-Not talking: High chance of leecher
-Not telling skills: Usually an 'I-drop-and-leave-u-to-die-after-my-cap'-person

Nope, you're still a qualified jerk.

romO · May 23, 2006, 02:33 PM // 14:33

I don't see how that makes him a jerk. He wants success, efficiency, and doesn't want to get hassled. All of these seem like logical desires which lead to playing the game in peace without having to worry about carrying the burdens of others in one's group. Weeding out undesirables may make those people who don't know what they are doing feel bad, but this is a game where having a bad group can lead to a lot of wasted time. Its a matter of business and not a problem that he has with the people themselves. In that sense, he is far from a jerk. Really, when I went through the game with my mesmer and my assassin, I didn't mind when people didn't take me into groups because I understood their rationale. The same principle applies here.

Meo Yeong · May 23, 2006, 03:27 PM // 15:27

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Originally Posted by romO

I don't see how that makes him a jerk. He wants success, efficiency, and doesn't want to get hassled. All of these seem like logical desires which lead to playing the game in peace without having to worry about carrying the burdens of others in one's group. Weeding out undesirables may make those people who don't know what they are doing feel bad, but this is a game where having a bad group can lead to a lot of wasted time. Its a matter of business and not a problem that he has with the people themselves. In that sense, he is far from a jerk. Really, when I went through the game with my mesmer and my assassin, I didn't mind when people didn't take me into groups because I understood their rationale. The same principle applies here.

If we all played like that where you had all those requirements no one would be getting a group. Also, don't forget that we all started somewhere.

Braggi · May 23, 2006, 03:55 PM // 15:55

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Originally Posted by Meo Yeong

If we all played like that where you had all those requirements no one would be getting a group. Also, don't forget that we all started somewhere.

No, it's called screening, not jerkiness.

It has already been mentioned, here and in other threads, that certain behaviours during group setup are good indicators for a player's performance in a group.
It all depends on context.

Teasing a group of friends with "gogogo" is different to doing it in a PUG when people are still attuning their skillbars or have not answered the "ready?" question.
Being unresponsive means catatonic or afk unanounced, both bad.
A friendly question after skills used is also ok with me - prescribing to me my skill bar is not.
Kicking the offender before starting is the last chance you have...

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Originally Posted by nix0n

nah he doesnt, his requirements are similar to mine.. r9 + or bye bye

but you do qualify

Meo Yeong · May 23, 2006, 05:56 PM // 17:56

Usually as soon as someone starts asking my skillbar I just leave. If I am saying I am a healing monk or whatever is good enough. I hate when people start telling me to switch skills especially when I know what I am doing. It a game so let them use whatever. Thats for pve. for pvp sometimes some group builds require certain skills which is understandable and what random pvp is for. But in pve no certain build is required some just help more then others like mm and healing monks.

mushi · May 23, 2006, 06:32 PM // 18:32

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Originally Posted by Meo Yeong

Usually as soon as someone starts asking my skillbar I just leave. If I am saying I am a healing monk or whatever is good enough. I hate when people start telling me to switch skills especially when I know what I am doing. It a game so let them use whatever. Thats for pve. for pvp sometimes some group builds require certain skills which is understandable and what random pvp is for. But in pve no certain build is required some just help more then others like mm and healing monks.

I care to disagree, it might not be an entire skill bar but certains skills make certain missions really easy. One example, winter (ranger spirit) for the titans and more recently in the deep where having a heal party is generally a must. Heck, when i organise the group i ask the monks to bring prot spirit as well, it's nice to chuck onto a tank at times.

Nater · May 23, 2006, 06:42 PM // 18:42

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Originally Posted by Meo Yeong

I hate when people start telling me to switch skills especially when I know what I am doing.

There are far more people out there that THINK they know what they are doing then actually know what they are doing. Hence Guildmaster Cain has to screen everyone. I agree with him, as he never said he wasn't nice to noobs. When I join a group and the leader asks my skill bar(can be annoying to type them all out), or suggests a few skills...I know I'm in a good group.

makosi · May 23, 2006, 06:48 PM // 18:48

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Originally Posted by SAQ

Biggest jerks I've encountered are people who come on the GW forums JUST to whine, all they ever do is whine whine whine.. Please, give light to some CONSTRUCTIVE critisms...

That has to be the biggest self-contradiciton ever.

roflcakes.

nohooiam · May 23, 2006, 07:36 PM // 19:36

i find most jerks tend to be people who have temper problems.

sometimes they'll apologize for their actions if you deal with them in a non hostile manner.